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The Red Book
01/22/10 at 06:20:21
 
It arrived by post early one morning soon after Christmas, I opened the package and was immediately in awe at the object, wrapped in a deep, glowing red cover, illuminated in gold and weighing at least ten pounds. In the hush of the post celebration morning, candles aiding the winter gloom, I slowly drew open the mighty tome. Like some wizard's recipe book, it was alive with colour and mysterious design. The smell of burning assailed my nostrils and for a moment I thought I had disturbed hell itself. The glorious front cover was being roasted by a candle! Of course I wrenched the book to one side but the damage was done. After a short period of mourning for the exquisite and pristine newness that had gone and never called me mother, I wrote to the publisher, Norton, and told them my sorry tale. Within a few days an envelope was delivered containing another dust cover at no expense to me. This was generous of the company but they had not provided the item with any protection and it had been crushed in the rough and tumble of the mail. After more grieving, I wrote to Norton again. 'Please, most wonderful and generous of people, will you send me again a dust cover for this seriously beautiful product that you have wisely and cleverly made. I am your most grovelling  and unworthy person but please pack it in not less than a flight case this time.'
They most excellently did send me another jacket, splendidly protected and received gratefully. A suitably craven message was sent in thanks. I wonder what C.G., who used to talk to his kitchen implements and furniture, would make of all this?
 
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/11/AR2009111125386. html
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/06/books/review/Harrison-t.html
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/12/arts/design/12jung.html
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Re: The Red Book
Reply #1 - 03/06/10 at 07:25:02
 
It's a big book. Once you put it down you can't pick it up.
Astonishing is the word. You will certainly be a-stonied!
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Reply #2 - 03/07/10 at 15:38:27
 
Rather than read about someone else's spiritual life, why don't you create your own?  It too can be epic and important.
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Reply #3 - 03/08/10 at 07:19:26
 
Hi, Rohche! A good suggestion, certainly, but these days I find it hard to write or paint, things I have been doing all my adult life, off and on.
This is in part because I am at my most creative when life has been most uncomfortable and at this time I am absurdly comfortable! In the past when I've had fallow period I've given myself a hard times for not producing something but I'm easier on myself these days. Thanks for the thought, though! Smiley
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Reply #4 - 03/20/10 at 03:34:06
 
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Reply #5 - 03/21/10 at 00:06:47
 
Interesting thought about creativity- many artists seem more creative when uncomfortable as you put it chico, but I don't think it applies across the board.  I think creativity requires both experience and openness - the kind many people avoid because it isn't safe (or comfortable). Well, that could open up a whole new topic other than the Red Book, but Rohche's comment got me thinking.
 
Sometimes life can paralyze a person where they are in so much pain creativity simply isn't of interest to them; life itself is no longer of interest.
 
As for Jung, I've only seen portions of The Red Book, and if I were at someone's house where it was sitting out on the table, no doubt I'd be looking through it.  But I tend to find Jung nearly unreadable - though interesting.  I don't think most of his books were written in "discomfort" but from a great intellectual capacity, and to a certain degree openness to the possible.
 
For awhile Jung was of great interest to me - now it's no longer the case.  Though I'm sure the book is fascinating for those caught up in Jung's perceptions.
 
I think Rohche is onto something about creating our own spiritual life - but what about those who have fallen into the abyss?  Are those souls irretrievable?
 
Sorry again, chico for the tangent, but blame Rohche, not me!  Wink
 
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Reply #6 - 03/21/10 at 07:29:03
 
Hey Zu!
A central idea, those caught up in Jung's perceptions.
I favour Hegel's proposition that we can't know the thing in itself .
 My inestimable mate and I are planning an invasion of the North American colony territories for October. We pore over the map and at almost every American town or state we find ourselves singing the associated songs - 24 Hours to Tulsa, Walking to New Orleans - you know the score. No English town or county has this marvelous resonance. We get more excited by saying New York twice than by saying Basingstoke over and over!
We are clearly under a spell woven by the unabashed American self-promotion of the rivers and mountains, the cars and the Blues Suede Shoes in songs, films and books. You, America, have sold America and the American way of life brilliantly. An aura has enveloped the world and we have innocently bought into your sales pitch. Innocently may be the wrong word - we all unconsciously know that the world cannot be had first-hand so we opt for the reality of choice.
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Reply #7 - 03/21/10 at 14:55:11
 
Have a great time in the USA (colonies, lol - I have an Australian friend who is still loyal to the Queen!)!!  But back in the 60s I had the same feeling about England (Ferry Cross the Mercy) and when the Beatles invaded America, I was ready to renounce my American citizenship (at the age of twelve) and become a Brit!!  No other musician/music group ever made me feel that way since, lol.
 
But Tulsa???  What's there?  I'm not an Okie fan.  Washington state and Montana are gorgeous! (Not to mention Hawaii! no ka oi! (it's the best!) - er just avoid Honolulu and go to the outer islands, preferably when Madam Pele - the volcano - is sleeping)
 
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Reply #8 - 03/21/10 at 20:15:22
 
I don't know anything about Tulsa either. It just sounds better than Grimsby or Bognor.
Zu - did you mean Ferry Across the Mersey or was Mercy asking for clemancy?
Away for a week now - looking after chickens!
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Reply #9 - 03/21/10 at 21:58:27
 
Quote from chico on 03/21/10 at 20:15:22:
I don't know anything about Tulsa either. It just sounds better than Grimsby or Bognor.
Zu - did you mean Ferry Across the Mersey or was Mercy asking for clemancy?

 
Lol - Freudian slip - you busted me!   Grin
 
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Reply #10 - 03/23/10 at 18:42:54
 

Were you wanting a conversion experience, Ian?  It's been known to happen in these corners...And I hear tell there are good people there - excellently wonderful people, plants and critters....Smiley  
 
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Reply #11 - 03/25/10 at 05:22:38
 
Quote from Misty Moore on 03/23/10 at 18:42:54:



(resisting posting more links to JD's music...)




 
It's funny - strange, I mean - how epiphanies strike unexpectedly from such varied sources - devotion to art or ideas or music, they come...
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Reply #12 - 03/28/10 at 06:15:58
 
Chickens masterfully cared for. There is nothing as pleasurable as an egg, two minutes from being layed, lightly poached and served on homemade bread in the company of the object of one's love.
 
Trip to The New World in Oct. being planned as we speak. A visit to Carol in Missouri on the way to New Orleans is arranged.
 
The Red Book and it's three covers (see earlier!)waits for respectful attentions to be directed without the distractions that are part of our daily lives at the moment.  
 
 
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Reply #13 - 03/28/10 at 19:33:55
 
Say hi to Carol for us.
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Reply #14 - 03/29/10 at 18:24:37
 
Love the Rockin' Bodhisattva, Buddha, whatever divinity!
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